(usagi-users 00313) Re: USAGI IPv6 patches

["William F. Maton" <wmaton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Guys,
	Before we start digging trenches of attrition, let's just pull
back for a minute.

	First, I think the hype around USAGI has to be immediately
dispelled.  Second, I think Hideaki can help with the first point by
him restating what he has said already: "Please wait."  Thirdly, we should
take heed of the second point:  "Let's wait."

	USAGI still has some more of a maturing process to go, and they
need to present a credible case to the linux-kernel guys and the glibc
guys.  Once they're organized (and hopefully the hype is dispelled), then
maybe everyone can move forward in a reasonable way.

	If someone wants to discuss things above at the IETF over a brew
of their favourite and discuss things, I'll be lurking at the ngtrans and
ipng working groups.....

On Fri, 16 Mar 2001 horape@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> > So from what I gather it seems that Debian is going to ship an
> > ipv6 toolkit which is known to only work with the USAGI patches.
> 
> No, we're not going to do that. We cannot do that. We need to work
> with mainstream kernels. But some semantics of usermode programming
> on linux force us to do some things that are "ugly". So we ask you
> to evaluate (we're not looking for a commit to apply anything we
> send to you, but just to evaluate) some patches that change these
> things that are very important for us.
> 
> That's why i asked you to do something like the Apache inclusion
> of SGI patches. The SGI guy is adapting the patches until the Apache
> team say they're ok, but there is not commit to apply them, just to
> evaluate.
> 
> > These patches, which we have been bombarded with requests to include
> > into the main tree, are being stated by its' main developers as not
> > "ready for inclusion" yet, not even a simple extracted DOUBLE_BIND
> > patch?
> 
> > I really am furious that people have made such a stink about the USAGI
> > ipv6 patches, claiming that our ipv6 in the main kernel is "too broken
> > to use".  I am going to take such USAGI ipv6 propaganda with a grain
> > of salt in the future.
> 
> I'm not aware of anybody from the Debian project that has said that
> mainstream kernel is "too broken to use". If I said something that
> could be understand as if I did, i'm sorry.
> 
> > Later,
> > David S. Miller
> > davem@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
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